[Permission Granted by Whirly Fizzle to include her name and this entire interview in the class wiki]
Interview with avatar Whirly Fizzle:
I met Whirly at a well populated welcome area in Second Life. She then teleported me to her house so that we could interact
at a location that had less lag. I decided to change Deklin's race for this interview to begin my research on changing my avatar's
gender or race. Deklin is the African American avatar with the afro in my pictures.
Whirly Fizzle: You want to go somewhere less laggy?
Whirly Fizzle: I see you as a cloud
Whirly Fizzle: lol
Deklin Windlow: yes that sounds great
Whirly Fizzle: Ok...Wanna come to my house?
Deklin Windlow: sure
Whirly Fizzle: Ok...Ill TP you
Deklin Windlow: ok
Deklin Windlow: is that better?
Whirly Fizzle: Yes...I see you now
Deklin Windlow: ok good
Deklin Windlow: you have a very nice house by the way
Whirly Fizzle: Whats your project?
Whirly Fizzle: Oh Thanks
Whirly Fizzle: This is a great place to live
Deklin Windlow: well just some background. i'm a student at the university of richmond and am taking an english course based on second life
Whirly Fizzle: Still some places left to rent if you are looking
Whirly Fizzle: Oh cool
Deklin Windlow: we have been interacting with avatars, and experiencing second life. and then we write about our findings
Whirly Fizzle: Oh what a great thing to study!
Deklin Windlow: the course is centralized around making claims and supporting them
Whirly Fizzle: Were you on SL before this project?
Deklin Windlow: not before the semester
Deklin Windlow: i've been a member for about 2 months now
Whirly Fizzle: You like it?
Whirly Fizzle: Lets sit down

(Deklin and Whirly conversing in Whirly's house)
Deklin Windlow: it's fascinating
Deklin Windlow: ok sounds good
We then proceed to Whirly’s living room and sit on a couch
Deklin Windlow: ok thats better
Whirly Fizzle: :o)
Deklin Windlow: so my assignment is to interview an avatar about an aspect or aspects of second life
Deklin Windlow: so i decided to go to a relatively populated area and you were the first avatar to accept my request
Whirly Fizzle: Ok
Whirly Fizzle: lol
Whirly Fizzle: How long were you trying?
Deklin Windlow: i'd been searching for someone to interview for about 15 min before i found you
Whirly Fizzle: Oh...not too bad then
Deklin Windlow: not all that bad
Deklin Windlow: haha some people made fun of me
Whirly Fizzle: Oh...Theres some twats in SL!!!! Dont worry about it!
Whirly Fizzle: lol
Deklin Windlow: that's what my professor has told me
Whirly Fizzle: ha ha
Deklin Windlow: he calls them 'griefers'
Whirly Fizzle: Did he tell you to beware of the vampires?
Whirly Fizzle giggles
Deklin Windlow: no he did not
Deklin Windlow: why's that?
Whirly Fizzle: Oh yeah....Griefers are a pest
Whirly Fizzle: Cos Im one
Whirly Fizzle: We go round biteing people
Whirly Fizzle: lol
Whirly Fizzle: Its a game within SL
Whirly Fizzle: Called Bloodlines
Whirly Fizzle: But we arnt Griefers
Whirly Fizzle: They just wanna ruin SL for everybody
Whirly Fizzle: They have illegal weapons that force you to crash & relog
Deklin Windlow: wow that's awful
Whirly Fizzle: By illegal I mean against the TOS
Deklin Windlow: right
Whirly Fizzle: Terms of service
Whirly Fizzle: Am I talking too much?
Whirly Fizzle: lol
Deklin Windlow: haha no you're fine
Deklin Windlow: so just to get started how long have you been involved with second life?
Whirly Fizzle: I was "born" on 10/21/2007
Whirly Fizzle: So I was a year old yesterday
Whirly Fizzle: Thats called your rez day
Deklin Windlow: yes i was about to say happy birthday
Whirly Fizzle: Ty
Deklin Windlow: or happy rez day
Whirly Fizzle: lol
Deklin Windlow: was it exciting?
Deklin Windlow: did you celebrate at all?
Whirly Fizzle: Not yet
Whirly Fizzle: Im having a rez party on Friday
Whirly Fizzle: Thats the best day for everyone to come
Deklin Windlow: make's sense
Whirly Fizzle: Making it a Hallowen party too
Deklin Windlow: fun
Deklin Windlow: what attracted you to this virtual world?
Deklin Windlow: or virtual worlds in general
Whirly Fizzle: Id never heard about it till I read an article in computer active magazine about virtual worlds
Whirly Fizzle: I was never a big gamer but I thought it sounded like fun
Whirly Fizzle: So I joined up and absolutely love it
Deklin Windlow: my professor argues that it's completely different from gaming
Whirly Fizzle: I wasnt on much at first...it took me a while to really appreciate what you can do here
Whirly Fizzle: Yes...I always got bored quickly of games
Whirly Fizzle: This is a game but its so totally immersive
Whirly Fizzle: And you get to know people really well here
Deklin Windlow: right
Deklin Windlow: what would you say that your main purpose for using second life is?
Whirly Fizzle: My friends & I all chat on voice a lot
Whirly Fizzle: For fun
Deklin Windlow: i don't have voice capability
Whirly Fizzle: Im here because I enjoy it
Whirly Fizzle: Its what I do now on a night instead of watching tv
Deklin Windlow: do you find it to be a completely seperate aspect of your real life?
Deklin Windlow: or rather an extenstion of your reality
Whirly Fizzle: Im interested in the technical side of it too..how it all works
Deklin Windlow: it is unbelievable what can be created
Whirly Fizzle: I consider it seperate
Whirly Fizzle: But the lines do get blurred
Whirly Fizzle: Because you form friendships here
Deklin Windlow: right..so you find that you have your real world friends and your second life friends and you like to
keep them seperate?
Whirly Fizzle: Well, Id love it if my RL friends came on too
Whirly Fizzle: I have one friend that plays
Whirly Fizzle: From RL
Whirly Fizzle: Thats good fun
Deklin Windlow: i've found that many of the resident's i've interacted with use it for reasons such as business,
education, sex, etc...its nice to meet someone who uses second life primarly for the sake of enjoyment
Whirly Fizzle: So I dont WANT to keep them seperate, it just is
Deklin Windlow: right thats understandable
Whirly Fizzle: Well, I guess Ive used it for those reasons too...thats all part of the enjoyment
Whirly Fizzle: Ive been thinking of ways to make real money here
Whirly Fizzle: But in a fun way
Whirly Fizzle: Not seriously
Whirly Fizzle: I help the landowner here sell property
Whirly Fizzle: Ive made about £30 in real money from that
Whirly Fizzle: Which is a bonus
Deklin Windlow: if you don't mind me asking roughly how many dollars is that?
Whirly Fizzle: And I enjoy learning how to build & script so I guess thats the educational side
Whirly Fizzle: About $60 I think
Deklin Windlow: i am unfamiliar with the linden:dollar ratio
Whirly Fizzle: Give or take $10 each way
Deklin Windlow: ok
Whirly Fizzle: Oh...hang on..I can tell you that
Whirly Fizzle: L$1000 will cost you $4.09 on the Lindex exchange
Whirly Fizzle: Ive tried the sex stuff too but It gets boring very quickly
Whirly Fizzle: Absolutely hilarious though!!!
Deklin Windlow: i can only imagine
Deklin Windlow: we did an entire project exploring the business aspect of second life
Whirly Fizzle: Cool
Whirly Fizzle: Oh...people have made a lot of money here
Deklin Windlow: everyone in the class was assigned 2 companies. one of which was a company that existed only
in second life and the other in both real and virtual worlds. I had IBM and the electric sheep company. we then
explored each of these locations and through exploration, interaction, and research, we were to determine how each
company markets to its customers. and which proves more effective
Whirly Fizzle: What did you discover?
Deklin Windlow: i claimed that the way ESC marketed in world was more affective than IBM because ESC was more
familiar with its intended audience
Deklin Windlow: ESC is there for the soul benefit of second life and its residents
Deklin Windlow: whereas IBM uses second life as a means of enhansing their coorporation in the real world
Deklin Windlow: they use second life to attract a different group of clients etc
Deklin Windlow: it was very interesting
Whirly Fizzle: Sounds it
Deklin Windlow: what are your views of second life as a social utility?
Whirly Fizzle: As in using it for making friends & meeting partners?
Deklin Windlow: right
Deklin Windlow: sorry i'm being vague
Whirly Fizzle: Well, I didnt come here to meet people as such, but I formed a few good friendships along the way
Whirly Fizzle: I know people that are here to find boyfriends/girlfriends in RL though
Deklin Windlow: wow
Deklin Windlow: how would you compare your relationships with individuals in second life and in real life?
Whirly Fizzle: Well here, its much more superficial
Whirly Fizzle: You generally dont chat about your RL problems here
Whirly Fizzle: People just tend to chat about aspects of SL
Whirly Fizzle: But depends how well you get to know someone
Deklin Windlow is Offline
Whirly Fizzle: My landowner is on SL to meet a RL partner & we chat a lot about all his different Girlfriends on here
& who he wants to meet in RL
Second Life: User not online - message will be stored and delivered later.
Whirly Fizzle: Oooops! You crashed!!!
My computer crashed at this point in the conversation so I had to restart. When I returned, I had Whirly remind me where
we were in the conversation.
Second Life: User not online - message will be stored and delivered later.
Whirly Fizzle: Doncha just love SL!
Second Life: User not online - message will be stored and delivered later.
Deklin Windlow is Online
Whirly Fizzle: Welcome back!
Whirly Fizzle: lol
Whirly Fizzle: Crash?
Deklin Windlow: haha i'm really sorry
Deklin Windlow: yep just crashed on me
Whirly Fizzle: S'ok
Whirly Fizzle: One of the pains of SL!!!!
Deklin Windlow: there we go
Whirly Fizzle: Cool
Deklin Windlow: you don't by any chance have our conversation saved do you?
Whirly Fizzle: Yes
Whirly Fizzle: Well, I can do
Whirly Fizzle: You want me to send it to you?
Whirly Fizzle: Notecard?
Deklin Windlow: would you mind?
Whirly Fizzle: No probs
Deklin Windlow: can i copy and paste a notecard into a word doc?
Deklin Windlow: wow i am very laggy right now
Whirly Fizzle: I dont see why not
Deklin Windlow: ok i'd really appreaciate that
Whirly Fizzle: Just doing it now
Deklin Windlow: ok i'm sorry but once again how do you compare the friends on second life with your friends in the
real world?
Whirly Fizzle: Cool
Deklin Windlow: how would you compare your relationships with individuals in second life and in real life?
Whirly Fizzle: Well here, its much more superficial
Whirly Fizzle: My landowner is on SL to meet a RL partner & we chat a lot about all his different Girlfriends on here
& who he wants to meet in RL
Whirly Fizzle: I said that when youd crashed..lol
Whirly Fizzle: Dunno if thats ok answer
Deklin Windlow: no thats great
Deklin Windlow: interesting
Whirly Fizzle: He'd prob be ok with being interviewed if you need more people
Deklin Windlow: just 1 for the moment
Deklin Windlow: but maybe later though!
Deklin Windlow: i have my final major project due in a little over a month
Whirly Fizzle: Ouch!
Deklin Windlow: maybe i'll try to get in contact with you or him again then
Whirly Fizzle: Well, just IM me when you need to
Deklin Windlow: sure thing
Deklin Windlow: ok sorry just a few more questions and then i'll let you continue with your night
Whirly Fizzle: If im offline Ill get it when I log in
Whirly Fizzle: Yeah sure
Deklin Windlow: so you say that your relations with individuals are different on second life than real life. do you ever
think that second life could become one of the dominate means of communication between individuals?
Deklin Windlow: as in do you think it could replace email or facebook or even telephone?
Whirly Fizzle: I think its possible yes
Whirly Fizzle: But a lot of people would hate SL & not want to use it
Whirly Fizzle: But its free to chat here on voice to people all over the world
Whirly Fizzle: Ive thought about getting my cousins in Canada on so we can voice chat
Whirly Fizzle: Save on the phone bills...lol
Deklin Windlow: no kidding
Deklin Windlow: thats a good idea
Whirly Fizzle: It can be buggy though
Whirly Fizzle: Not as reliable as a phone line
Whirly Fizzle: But Im sure that will improve over time
Whirly Fizzle: But Im sure that will improve over time
Whirly Fizzle: Ive heard businesses already use it to hold meetings
Whirly Fizzle: RL ones I mean
Deklin Windlow: we've discussed that in class
Whirly Fizzle: Not really that diff from video conferencing
Deklin Windlow: people from all over the world can congregate in second life and hold conferences
Whirly Fizzle: Yup
Whirly Fizzle: I think its an amazing piece of technology
Whirly Fizzle: Whatever your reasons for coming here, whatever you interests, persuasion or perversion, you can
find it here
Whirly Fizzle: lol
Deklin Windlow: yep
Whirly Fizzle: And theres some WEIRD stuff here!!!!
Whirly Fizzle: lol
Deklin Windlow: haha yes
Deklin Windlow: i've already had some creepy guy make sexual advances on me
Whirly Fizzle: Whats the weirdest thing you've seen?
Whirly Fizzle: lol
Whirly Fizzle: Yup
Whirly Fizzle: Lots of pervs here....lol
Deklin Windlow: ok last serious question....what do you think the views are on race and gender in second life?
Deklin Windlow: do you find there to be discrimination/racism based on race and gender?
Whirly Fizzle: Well...You never know who is behind most avatars!
Whirly Fizzle: The av could be a guy but its a girl in RL
Whirly Fizzle: You never know
Whirly Fizzle: Unless you speak on voice
Whirly Fizzle: A lot of people are being something in SL they arnt in RL
Whirly Fizzle: You can be what you want
Deklin Windlow: do you find that avatars will discriminate or make rude remarks towards avatars who are minorities?
Whirly Fizzle: I read that 80% of all AVS in SL are female but of those 80%....50% are guys in RL!!!!
Whirly Fizzle: No...I find that doesnt happen
Whirly Fizzle: There arnt really minorities here
Deklin Windlow: in a sense a utopia?
Deklin Windlow: is that what you're getting at?
Whirly Fizzle: Wel, I mean...someone with a "different" AV is more likely to get positive attention
Deklin Windlow: right
Whirly Fizzle: Because they stand out
Whirly Fizzle: Yes, in a way I guess
Deklin Windlow: i have an interesting article for you if i can find it
Whirly Fizzle: Most people dont care who you are in RL
Whirly Fizzle: But Ill tell you one thing myself & others have noticed...
Deklin Windlow: nevermind my internet isn't working with second life open. and i don't want to crash
Whirly Fizzle: There are hardly any coloured AVs here
Whirly Fizzle: I find that strange
Whirly Fizzle: You noticed that?
Deklin Windlow: yes
Deklin Windlow: here's why i ask.....
Deklin Windlow: fyi in real world i am a caucasion male
Whirly Fizzle: I wondered that actually...If you had just chosen a coloured AV cos of the projects nature
Whirly Fizzle: I think its really weird...why arnt there any!
Deklin Windlow: it actually has to do with my next mini project for class
Deklin Windlow: as of 2 hours ago i had a white male avatar
Deklin Windlow: our assignment is to either change our avatar's gender or race and see how they are treated any
differently in second life
Whirly Fizzle: You notice any difference in the way you got treated?
Whirly Fizzle: Ah!
Whirly Fizzle: Hopefully you werent treated differently
Deklin Windlow: i haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary
Deklin Windlow: you passed
Whirly Fizzle: WhoooHoooo
Whirly Fizzle: Actually, when I first saw you I thought...thank God...someone has a black AV!!!
Whirly Fizzle: lol
Deklin Windlow: although i would like to know the reason why the other avatars declined my request to be
interviewed
Deklin Windlow: was it because they were busy? or because i had a black avatar?
Whirly Fizzle: Nah...I really dont think it was cos of the black AV
Whirly Fizzle: I hope not anyway
Deklin Windlow: when you get a chance check this out... http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2006/02/the_skin_your_.html
Deklin Windlow: i hope i typed it in correctly
Deklin Windlow: well that was my last question
Something happened at this point in the conversation and my IM screen said that Whirly was typing but nothing ever
came through. I think that either she or I had frozen. It was getting late so I decided to go back into the real world for
the rest of the night.

Another snapshot of Deklin and Whirly on the couch. (I was going to get a snapshot from a different location but my computer
had frozen and I was unable to move my avatar)
My interview with Whirly could not have gone any better! She was very friendly and willing to talk with me. In fact we ended up talking for over an hour. It was about 2 in the morning when Second Life crashed for the second time that our conversation abruptly ended. I started asking Whirly very broad questions: how long she had been involved with Second Life, why she chose to join Second Life, the main purpose for which she used Second Life, etc. My questions eventually became more detailed and elaborate. I'd say that my main focus of my interview was her opinion of the social aspects of Second Life and how she compared her relationships and interactions with others in world with those in the real world. Her responses were quite interesting, as shown in the above conversation.
Bibliography
Fizzle, Whirly. "Interview With Avatar Whirly Fizzle." Online interview. 22 Oct. 2008.
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Comments (1)
Joe Essid said
at 5:30 pm on Nov 4, 2008
You might want to drop her a notecard about permissions, since she did not reply to your IM. See: http://iggyssyllabus.pbwiki.com/Note-Card
The bloodlines controversy is at this URL:
http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2008/10/bloodlines-vira.html
You might ask Whirly whether she gets many negative reactions to Bloodlines.
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